USF is winning the recruiting race due to having an established NlL program.

Coaching will only get you so far…

Rick said

USF is winning the recruiting race due to having an established NlL program.

Coaching will only get you so far…

Posted On: Nov 26th 2023, 12:09 PM #418510

USF has the attendance (student body) and funding of a major P5 program.  We cannot race that race with them.

The talent gap isn’t large enough that coaching cannot overcome.  I do not buy that.

If this is our narrative, that we cant beat programs that have larger NIL, then why even play the games?  Instead of football, lets just compete for fundraising.  This is the “we cant sell unless we are the cheapest” argument. 

It’s an excuse in my book.  Especially at the American Conference level.  You can line up largest NIL in our conference to results in W/L and it wont align next year.  

It would be nice to have the largest NIL in the conference, but the way we played teams like Ohio, ECU, Rice, etc is absolutely coaching.  

Ok let me put it like this, we want guys. Guy chooses them over us due to money.

We don't get the guy we both want.

Nah, coaching takes care of that…

Do I have this correct?

It will be a while before anyone sees us near the top of a recruiting class in our conference due NIL which is not supposed to be used as a recruiting tool per NCAA rules, but obviously is.

My thoughts: I believe we are going to be just fine in 2024. Our school is getting huge attention with basketball and and no other Florida school has our beautiful location. The increase in applications has been the strongest in many years. Hoping this continues for years to come.

Tom Herman will most likely make some big changes. And, I'm super confident that he will right the ship.

The silver lining of not playing in a bowl, is that you can do a lot more homework and focus most of your attention on recruiting and 2024.

Our awesome school is riding a wave of momentum and we all should have known that it would be messy cleaning up after Taggart. Just saying.

GO OWLS!!!! Looking forward to 2024

walty12 said

Rick said

USF is winning the recruiting race due to having an established NlL program.

Coaching will only get you so far…

Posted On: Nov 26th 2023, 9:09 AM #418510

USF has the attendance (student body) and funding of a major P5 program.  We cannot race that race with them.

The talent gap isn’t large enough that coaching cannot overcome.  I do not buy that.

If this is our narrative, that we cant beat programs that have larger NIL, then why even play the games?  Instead of football, lets just compete for fundraising. 

It’s an excuse in my book.  Especially at the American Conference level.  You can line up largest NIL in our conference to results in W/L and it wont align next year.  

It would be nice to have the largest NIL in the conference, but the way we played teams like Ohio, ECU, Rice, etc is absolutely coaching.  

Posted On: Nov 26th 2023, 9:12 AM #418512

Please forgive my rant in advance but I’ve wanted to get this off my chest for a while….I think the athletics department at FAU (and FIU) is okay with being second rate, thinking of themselves more like FGCU than USF. USF isn’t much different in status as a university in the state from the likes of FAU and FIU yet they are able to afford a new $340 million football stadium and already play in a suitable basketball area, while FAU and FIU can’t fund decent basketball arenas? 

Also, with regards to the football team, I think part of the problem is a lack of football talent in the area to recruit from, especially with lineman. Another is the lack of fans and lack of a good gameday atmosphere. There is a misconception that South Florida has tons of high school football talent but I’ve heard repeatedly that high school football coaching and development in the area isn’t what it once was. IMO, the South Florida area has a lot of fast athletes/track stars but that is not enough, especially at the FBS level. G5 programs in other areas of the south, Texas, and the Midwest (such as Ohio) have better access to bigger and more skilled linemen and football players in general and can more easily recruit speed from the south than vice versa. IMO, FAU looked like an FCS team with small speedy athletes against a bigger, stronger, and more skilled Rice team yesterday. It’s amazing the score was as close as it was with how Rice dominated the game.

South Florida recruits are also among the most likely to want to move away from home if they can. Many would rather attend Syracuse, Pitt, Illinois, even Marshall, App State, WKU, or Southern Miss than play for FAU or FIU. At least before they get homesick. Then the ones that aren’t good enough to make the cut at those programs come back home via the portal. Conversely, many freshman that end of doing well locally at FAU or FIU leave for other programs with better gameday atmospheres the first chance they get.

I am probably exaggerating out of frustration but it’s something that has become very noticeable. The norm for the local G5 teams seem to 4-8 type seasons and it seems very clear why. Even UM has been getting hurt by similar issues.

Rick said

Ok let me put it like this, we want guys. Guy chooses them over us due to money.

We don't get the guy we both want.

Nah, coaching takes care of that…

Do I have this correct?

Posted On: Nov 26th 2023, 12:26 PM #418513

A solid coaching staff with the talent we should have on our roster absolutely wins 8 games with our schedule next year.  Yes.

owl said

Please forgive my rant in advance but…

Posted On: Nov 26th 2023, 1:00 PM #418516

I actually 100% agree with this.  As far as USF vs FAU athletics…They had ~$60m in athletics revenue last year to our ~$40m.

The American Athletic Conference has announced the winners of the league’s weekly football honors for the final week of the regular season.

OFFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE WEEK

Byrum Brown • RFr. • QB • South Florida

Brown had a hand in five touchdowns (four passing, one rushing) to help South Florida secure bowl eligibility for the first time in five seasons with a 48-14 win against Charlotte. Brown completed 22 of 30 passes for 253 yards and four touchdowns and added a 35-yard rushing TD as the Bulls reeled off 503 yards of offense. Brown finishes the regular season ranked seventh nationally in total offense (318.6 ypg) and joins LSU's Jayden Daniels as the only players nationally with at least 3,000 passing yards and 700 rushing yards this season.

Preston Stone • So. • QB • SMU

Playing against a Navy defense that had held four opponents without a touchdown this season, Stone passed for 322 yards and three touchdowns  - all in the first half - to lead SMU to a 59-14 win and complete SMU's first 8-0 season in conference play in program history. Stone completed 14 of 19 passes, connecting on TD passes of 15, 27 and 26 yards to stake the Mustangs to an early 28-0 lead as SMU built a 52-14 cushion at halftime. Stone, who left the game with an injury late in the second quarter, registered his seventh game this season with at least three touchdown passes.

 
DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK

Kam Pedescleaux • Sr. • S • Tulane

Pedescleaux had a hand in two turnovers and a key fourth-down stop to help No. 18 Tulane get a 29-16 win against UTSA, sending the Green Wave to the American Athletic Conference Championship Game for the second consecutive season. Pedescleaux had six tackles, two pass breakups and a forced fumble to lead a defense that had five takeaways against the Roadrunners. He had a tipped ball on the opening possession that resulted in an interception at the UTSA 10-yard line, added a forced fumble on the Tulane 8 as the Roadrunners were threatening to score, and had a pass breakup on a fourth-and 4 from the Tulane 10 in the fourth quarter.

 
SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER OF THE WEEK

Noah Rauschenberg • Sr. • K • North Texas

Rauschenberg scored 13 points, including the game-winning 32-yard field goal at the final gun to give North Texas a 45-42 win against UAB. The gamewinner was one of three second-half field goals for Rauschenberg, who also connected from 34 and 24 yards as the Mean Green overcame an 14-point second-half deficit. Rauschenberg finished the season ranked third in The American in field goal percentage (84.2%) and fifth in scoring (7.8 ppg).


HONOR ROLL

Seth Henigan • Jr. • QB • Memphis

Completed 18 of 28 passes for 250 yards and four touchdowns in a 45-21 win at Temple.


Chandler Rogers • Jr. • QB • North Texas

Completed 30 of 53 passes for 404 yards and three touchdowns in a 45-42 win against UAB.


Luke McCaffrey • Jr. • WR • Rice

Had a career-high 12 receptions for 141 yards and a touchdown and added 31 rushing yards in a 24-21 win against Florida Atlantic to secure bowl eligibility.


Makhi Hughes • RFr. • RB • Tulane

Rushed for a career-high 166 yards on 26 carries with a touchdown in a 29-16 win against UTSA.


Kendarin Ray • Sr. • S • Tulsa

Had a game-high 15 tackles, including a key third-down stop in the fourth quarter, in a 29-27 win at East Carolina.